Episode Transcript
Interviewer: A study finds that when it comes to choosing health care procedures, cost matters. More next on the Scope.
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Interviewer: I'm here with General Pediatric Surgeon, Dr. Eric Scaife. Dr. Scaife, tell me about your study.
Dr. Scaife: It occurred to me that unlike many other parts of our economy, the consumers don't really understand the cost of medicine despite the fact that it represents about a quarter of our economy. And so as a pediatric surgeon one of the most common things that we deal with is pediatric appendicitis. We take out one or two appendixes a day. And we have two different ways of taking out your appendix. One with an open technique and one with a laparoscopic technique which requires specialty instruments.
And the outcomes in children with non-perforated appendicitis turns out to be the same, but the cost is quite different. And so it presented a really unique model for us where we could have a procedure with similar outcomes, but a very big difference in terms of cost. And we thought why not allow the patients to consider the cost in terms of which operation they get.
Most of the time we actually make the decision for them. And so it would be an interesting experiment that a patient could actually behave like a consumer as they would in any other part of the market.
Appendicitis Treatment: Cutting the Costs
Interviewer: Right. And what kind of difference in cost are we talking about?
Dr. Scaife: So for our study the open operation was about $3,000 cheaper than the laparoscopic operation. And the primary difference there is that the open operation requires a scalpel and some sutures and some instruments to provide exposure whereas the laparoscopic operation requires a number of gadgets, most of which tend to be disposable.
Interviewer: Does the patient end up paying a difference in cost?
Dr. Scaife: Well, this is where medicine gets really complicated and it's hard to peel out all of these differences, but I can tell you when I spoke with Primary Children's accountants, so basically their answer is that at the end of the day these are direct cost differences in terms of materials that are charged to the patient. So theoretically they should be exposed to that difference in cost. Whether or not that actually happens or not gets a lot muddier.
Appendicitis Procedure in Children Study
Interviewer: What were the results of the study? What did the patients decide?
Dr. Scaife: We randomized patients to either be exposed to just the difference in the procedures versus other patients that saw the difference in procedures plus the And then you might actually expand it to say, "Well, what if there was a larger consumer?" For example, let's say General Motors and they could make a decision based upon different services provided at different institutions based upon cost and value perceptions. And I think that actually is happening in the marketplace. This just happens to be a relatively simple study that actually clarifies that point.